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		<title>By: CalvertKid</title>
		<link>http://occidentalisraeli.com/2008/10/05/dc-shooting/comment-page-1/#comment-40</link>
		<dc:creator>CalvertKid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not the drunk Yuppies, it&#039;s the high school aged black kids with nothing better to do but run around, rob people, and act like thugs.  They don&#039;t go to the bars because they can&#039;t get in.  Highschool age kids in DC are insane.  Several years ago a couple of kids murdered a guy in Georgetown by slitting his throat.  Have you seen Clockwork Orange?

The people in the bars drinking are affluent urbanites and people from VA.

Definitely watch yourself after midnight on the weekends - don&#039;t walk side streets around totally intoxicated, oblivious of your surroundings or you might get jumped.  Avoid confrontation because the kids are dangerous.

As far as solving the problem, the cops definitely could step up the presence.  I don&#039;t see a lot of patrols on the side streets.  They could also probably stop, search and question more people.

Finally as far as guns, I personally would like to like to legally own and defend my house and neighborhood.  The bad guys already have them why can&#039;t we?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not the drunk Yuppies, it&#8217;s the high school aged black kids with nothing better to do but run around, rob people, and act like thugs.  They don&#8217;t go to the bars because they can&#8217;t get in.  Highschool age kids in DC are insane.  Several years ago a couple of kids murdered a guy in Georgetown by slitting his throat.  Have you seen Clockwork Orange?</p>
<p>The people in the bars drinking are affluent urbanites and people from VA.</p>
<p>Definitely watch yourself after midnight on the weekends &#8211; don&#8217;t walk side streets around totally intoxicated, oblivious of your surroundings or you might get jumped.  Avoid confrontation because the kids are dangerous.</p>
<p>As far as solving the problem, the cops definitely could step up the presence.  I don&#8217;t see a lot of patrols on the side streets.  They could also probably stop, search and question more people.</p>
<p>Finally as far as guns, I personally would like to like to legally own and defend my house and neighborhood.  The bad guys already have them why can&#8217;t we?</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://occidentalisraeli.com/2008/10/05/dc-shooting/comment-page-1/#comment-39</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adams Morgan Crime on the Rise

Washington Post
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/goingoutgurus/2008/10/adams_morgan_crime_on_the_rise.html

Just last week, in the wake of two shootings in heavily trafficked nightlife areas -- in Adams Morgan and at 14th and T Streets -- we were asking how safe you felt when you went out. Then, around 1 a.m. on Sunday morning in Adams Morgan, an unknown person fired six shots in the alley between the Suntrust bank and Julia&#039;s Empanadas, near the corner of 18th Street and Columbia Road, with one of the bullets flying across 18th Street and striking a light fixture on the porch outside Madams Organ. Although the gunplay happened right next to a police substation, the shooter got away.

As a result, you&#039;ll see more police on the streets in Adams Morgan this weekend, including the city&#039;s elite Crime Suppression Unit. But according to Brian Weaver, the head of the Advisory Neighborhood Commission, these two shootings are just the tip of the iceberg of rising crime in Adams Morgan: There have been 30 violent crimes in the last 30 days, primarily muggings and armed robberies, along with 14 confirmed incidents of shots being fired. &quot;I view this as a scary jump,&quot; he says. &quot;[Residents of Adams Morgan] tolerate drunk people fighting in the pizza line,&quot; Weaver says. &quot;This is a little bit different.&quot;

(As a comparison, in August, there were 11 muggings and two assaults with a deadly weapon, which can be anything from hitting someone with a beer bottle to a shooting.)

The rise in shootings looks troubling. Weaver says police have determined that almost all are part of a long-simmering feud between rival teenage gangs, and the majority of those shootings are not happening on Adams Morgan&#039;s busiest streets. What&#039;s more worrying for visitors is that huge spike in muggings.

These robberies aren&#039;t happening on the 18th Street strip or Columbia Road, either, says Weaver; instead, the muggers and thieves are hiding out on deserted sidestreets like &quot;Lanier Place or Champlain Street, waiting for people to come back to their car.&quot;

So while there will be more cops on the streets, consider this your public service announcement for the weekend: Park in the garage, take a taxi, grab the Adams Morgan-U Street Link bus to and from the Metro and just be extra vigilant. That way, there&#039;s less chance you&#039;ll turn out to be a statistic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adams Morgan Crime on the Rise</p>
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<p>Just last week, in the wake of two shootings in heavily trafficked nightlife areas &#8212; in Adams Morgan and at 14th and T Streets &#8212; we were asking how safe you felt when you went out. Then, around 1 a.m. on Sunday morning in Adams Morgan, an unknown person fired six shots in the alley between the Suntrust bank and Julia&#8217;s Empanadas, near the corner of 18th Street and Columbia Road, with one of the bullets flying across 18th Street and striking a light fixture on the porch outside Madams Organ. Although the gunplay happened right next to a police substation, the shooter got away.</p>
<p>As a result, you&#8217;ll see more police on the streets in Adams Morgan this weekend, including the city&#8217;s elite Crime Suppression Unit. But according to Brian Weaver, the head of the Advisory Neighborhood Commission, these two shootings are just the tip of the iceberg of rising crime in Adams Morgan: There have been 30 violent crimes in the last 30 days, primarily muggings and armed robberies, along with 14 confirmed incidents of shots being fired. &#8220;I view this as a scary jump,&#8221; he says. &#8220;[Residents of Adams Morgan] tolerate drunk people fighting in the pizza line,&#8221; Weaver says. &#8220;This is a little bit different.&#8221;</p>
<p>(As a comparison, in August, there were 11 muggings and two assaults with a deadly weapon, which can be anything from hitting someone with a beer bottle to a shooting.)</p>
<p>The rise in shootings looks troubling. Weaver says police have determined that almost all are part of a long-simmering feud between rival teenage gangs, and the majority of those shootings are not happening on Adams Morgan&#8217;s busiest streets. What&#8217;s more worrying for visitors is that huge spike in muggings.</p>
<p>These robberies aren&#8217;t happening on the 18th Street strip or Columbia Road, either, says Weaver; instead, the muggers and thieves are hiding out on deserted sidestreets like &#8220;Lanier Place or Champlain Street, waiting for people to come back to their car.&#8221;</p>
<p>So while there will be more cops on the streets, consider this your public service announcement for the weekend: Park in the garage, take a taxi, grab the Adams Morgan-U Street Link bus to and from the Metro and just be extra vigilant. That way, there&#8217;s less chance you&#8217;ll turn out to be a statistic.</p>
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		<title>By: Shooting News Update &#171; Occidental Israeli</title>
		<link>http://occidentalisraeli.com/2008/10/05/dc-shooting/comment-page-1/#comment-38</link>
		<dc:creator>Shooting News Update &#171; Occidental Israeli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] - A comment from Ben has alerted me that MPD has a record of gun violence on its map matching the incident from Saturday night. However, no news outlets seem to be picking it up - and at this point, they probably will not [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8211; A comment from Ben has alerted me that MPD has a record of gun violence on its map matching the incident from Saturday night. However, no news outlets seem to be picking it up &#8211; and at this point, they probably will not [...]</p>
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		<title>By: key</title>
		<link>http://occidentalisraeli.com/2008/10/05/dc-shooting/comment-page-1/#comment-37</link>
		<dc:creator>key</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Falafel, flowers are nice, but hardly the solution.

You get the ANCs to not grant any more liq licenses, and you take up some of the suggestions long time observer just made.

This might just be the straw...

This is the result of years of policy in never saying no to a liquor license.

DisneyWorld of Drunk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Falafel, flowers are nice, but hardly the solution.</p>
<p>You get the ANCs to not grant any more liq licenses, and you take up some of the suggestions long time observer just made.</p>
<p>This might just be the straw&#8230;</p>
<p>This is the result of years of policy in never saying no to a liquor license.</p>
<p>DisneyWorld of Drunk.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://occidentalisraeli.com/2008/10/05/dc-shooting/comment-page-1/#comment-36</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just searched and there is a record of a violent crime (assult with a weapon) between the dates of Oct 4-6 in the 2400 block of 18th Street.

http://crimemap.dc.gov/presentation/map.asp?map_action=INIT&amp;CrimeType=Total%20Violent%20Crime</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just searched and there is a record of a violent crime (assult with a weapon) between the dates of Oct 4-6 in the 2400 block of 18th Street.</p>
<p><a href="http://crimemap.dc.gov/presentation/map.asp?map_action=INIT&#038;CrimeType=Total%20Violent%20Crime" rel="nofollow">http://crimemap.dc.gov/present.....nt%20Crime</a></p>
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		<title>By: The Pint</title>
		<link>http://occidentalisraeli.com/2008/10/05/dc-shooting/comment-page-1/#comment-35</link>
		<dc:creator>The Pint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is unfortunate that many will cease to patron Adams Morgan because of this incident.  The reality is that every neighborhood has this kinda crime, it&#039;s city wide.  Violence citywide has been growing.  Most of it, though, just doesn&#039;t get reported.  This incident is only being reported on the local blogs.  No media is covering this cuz it&#039;s just too common.  I was in Chinatown last weekend and there was more police presence than in Adams Morgan and I truly felt less safe based on the crowds there.  It&#039;s all crazy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is unfortunate that many will cease to patron Adams Morgan because of this incident.  The reality is that every neighborhood has this kinda crime, it&#8217;s city wide.  Violence citywide has been growing.  Most of it, though, just doesn&#8217;t get reported.  This incident is only being reported on the local blogs.  No media is covering this cuz it&#8217;s just too common.  I was in Chinatown last weekend and there was more police presence than in Adams Morgan and I truly felt less safe based on the crowds there.  It&#8217;s all crazy.</p>
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		<title>By: Long time observer</title>
		<link>http://occidentalisraeli.com/2008/10/05/dc-shooting/comment-page-1/#comment-34</link>
		<dc:creator>Long time observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It may be time to implement a solution Jim Graham mentioned a couple years back.  1) The Advisory Neighborhood Commission (ANC) have the authority to request that establishments serving alcohol close their doors by Midnight.  2) No  parking after 9pm - except for residents and their quests.  3)  The City should enforce the law on over serving.  4) No police Moonlighting in Liquor establishments, even when the money is indirect - it leads to corruption.  5)  The direct and indirect costs of managing the chaos along the 18th street bar strip should be calculated.  That cost is spread throughout the Metropolitan Community, in that Adams Morgan is a draw for people throughout the region, so it&#039;s not only a cost to the DC Police and local emergency personnel - but that car crash in Alexandria or Rockwell may well have originated in Adams Morgan. And they do keep statistics in the emergency rooms.  These costs far out way any benefit from taxes and employment gained by keeping bars open after midnight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It may be time to implement a solution Jim Graham mentioned a couple years back.  1) The Advisory Neighborhood Commission (ANC) have the authority to request that establishments serving alcohol close their doors by Midnight.  2) No  parking after 9pm &#8211; except for residents and their quests.  3)  The City should enforce the law on over serving.  4) No police Moonlighting in Liquor establishments, even when the money is indirect &#8211; it leads to corruption.  5)  The direct and indirect costs of managing the chaos along the 18th street bar strip should be calculated.  That cost is spread throughout the Metropolitan Community, in that Adams Morgan is a draw for people throughout the region, so it&#8217;s not only a cost to the DC Police and local emergency personnel &#8211; but that car crash in Alexandria or Rockwell may well have originated in Adams Morgan. And they do keep statistics in the emergency rooms.  These costs far out way any benefit from taxes and employment gained by keeping bars open after midnight.</p>
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		<title>By: Adams Morgan Shooting - No News? &#171; Occidental Israeli</title>
		<link>http://occidentalisraeli.com/2008/10/05/dc-shooting/comment-page-1/#comment-33</link>
		<dc:creator>Adams Morgan Shooting - No News? &#171; Occidental Israeli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Morgan Shooting - No&#160;News? October 6, 2008 Posted by LB in America, DC, Media.  trackback  I posted the other day about a shooting incident in Adams Morgan on Saturday night. Apart from very little information on [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Morgan Shooting &#8211; No&nbsp;News? October 6, 2008 Posted by LB in America, DC, Media.  trackback  I posted the other day about a shooting incident in Adams Morgan on Saturday night. Apart from very little information on [...]</p>
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		<title>By: falafel</title>
		<link>http://occidentalisraeli.com/2008/10/05/dc-shooting/comment-page-1/#comment-32</link>
		<dc:creator>falafel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Point taken, Key, but how can we stop granting liquor licenses? prohibition is not an option... Do we have that influential power and if so, who can we speak with? http://www.kaloramacitizens.org/what/liquor/ ?

also~i totally agree that Admo has become a jail that serves alcohol at night. How can residents feel safe if shootings become a weekly trend?  I know that this sort of violence can happen anywhere but I seriously think that there needs to be some sort of solution that the residents can be a part of i.e. hand out free flowers whenever passing through the crowds to make folks less hostile...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Point taken, Key, but how can we stop granting liquor licenses? prohibition is not an option&#8230; Do we have that influential power and if so, who can we speak with? <a href="http://www.kaloramacitizens.org/what/liquor/" rel="nofollow">http://www.kaloramacitizens.org/what/liquor/</a> ?</p>
<p>also~i totally agree that Admo has become a jail that serves alcohol at night. How can residents feel safe if shootings become a weekly trend?  I know that this sort of violence can happen anywhere but I seriously think that there needs to be some sort of solution that the residents can be a part of i.e. hand out free flowers whenever passing through the crowds to make folks less hostile&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: jim crowzier</title>
		<link>http://occidentalisraeli.com/2008/10/05/dc-shooting/comment-page-1/#comment-31</link>
		<dc:creator>jim crowzier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone was caught?  I am very curious as to why there was no new s coverage or police report.  I did see one college kid loaded into an ambulance with a wrap on his head. There were at least 20 poliec officers within 100 feet of this gun firing.  Why didn&#039;t they apprehend the shooter?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone was caught?  I am very curious as to why there was no new s coverage or police report.  I did see one college kid loaded into an ambulance with a wrap on his head. There were at least 20 poliec officers within 100 feet of this gun firing.  Why didn&#8217;t they apprehend the shooter?</p>
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		<title>By: key</title>
		<link>http://occidentalisraeli.com/2008/10/05/dc-shooting/comment-page-1/#comment-30</link>
		<dc:creator>key</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So how do we as AM residents curtail these bars/restaurants that over serve?

You stop granting liquor licenses, period. It&#039;s not about little signs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So how do we as AM residents curtail these bars/restaurants that over serve?</p>
<p>You stop granting liquor licenses, period. It&#8217;s not about little signs.</p>
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		<title>By: JJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>JJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard the shots also. There were six fired in a matter of seconds. It was around 1:15 AM. The next day, an officer in the neighborhood told me that someone was shot during a mugging. He said that the suspect was arrested. Has there been any news coverage on this incident?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard the shots also. There were six fired in a matter of seconds. It was around 1:15 AM. The next day, an officer in the neighborhood told me that someone was shot during a mugging. He said that the suspect was arrested. Has there been any news coverage on this incident?</p>
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		<title>By: falafel</title>
		<link>http://occidentalisraeli.com/2008/10/05/dc-shooting/comment-page-1/#comment-22</link>
		<dc:creator>falafel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So how do we as AM residents curtail these bars/restaurants that over serve? for example, I suggested to FELIX Spy Lounge that they put up a sign that reads: &quot;please do not loiter after hours&quot;... who knows if that will help but I think it is our responsibility as AM residents to prevent AM from digressing into the armpit of DC.

Also, although the Meskerem suicide cannot be categorized as the same type of violence as that of this past weekends, it reflects the fact that people seem to find AM to be a comfort zone (for a lack of a better expression) for committing acts of violence and that can be addressed.  I propose we stage a nonviolent demonstration perhaps one weekend night where the residents take over the streets and practice nonviolence through protest... any thoughts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So how do we as AM residents curtail these bars/restaurants that over serve? for example, I suggested to FELIX Spy Lounge that they put up a sign that reads: &#8220;please do not loiter after hours&#8221;&#8230; who knows if that will help but I think it is our responsibility as AM residents to prevent AM from digressing into the armpit of DC.</p>
<p>Also, although the Meskerem suicide cannot be categorized as the same type of violence as that of this past weekends, it reflects the fact that people seem to find AM to be a comfort zone (for a lack of a better expression) for committing acts of violence and that can be addressed.  I propose we stage a nonviolent demonstration perhaps one weekend night where the residents take over the streets and practice nonviolence through protest&#8230; any thoughts?</p>
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		<title>By: Gil</title>
		<link>http://occidentalisraeli.com/2008/10/05/dc-shooting/comment-page-1/#comment-28</link>
		<dc:creator>Gil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben,

I agree that AM is definitely different during the day then at night.  I used to hang out there at night years ago, but things eventually got out of hand and I simply found better and safer places to spend time. AM is not the center of the nightlife universe in the DC area and in fact, it&#039;s slowly becoming the armpit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben,</p>
<p>I agree that AM is definitely different during the day then at night.  I used to hang out there at night years ago, but things eventually got out of hand and I simply found better and safer places to spend time. AM is not the center of the nightlife universe in the DC area and in fact, it&#8217;s slowly becoming the armpit.</p>
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		<title>By: ntx</title>
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		<dc:creator>ntx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No argument there.</description>
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